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azziria ([personal profile] azziria) wrote2012-03-24 08:28 am
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SPN 7.17

Unshaven, sleep-deprived, Lucifer-tortured Sam sliding off the edge of sanity and yet still driven to help someone else in trouble. Just... all the feelings. Seriously.

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[identity profile] azziria.livejournal.com 2012-03-24 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Fandom seems to be very divided about this episode, from what I'm reading. A lot of Sam fans feel that the minute Cas turned up Dean somehow forgot about Sam, but at the end of the day Dean didn't hesitate about Cas getting his bad memories back if it meant saving Sam. I guess if you love Sam and don't care for Cas then you're going to see this episode through a different filter from those who 'ship Cas and Dean.

I have issues with how they've so conveniently 'solved' Sam's Lucifer problem, and with them bringing Cas back just to do it, but my issues were so eclipsed by how Jared and Mark played this that I'm taking the episode as a win.

[identity profile] portraitofafool.livejournal.com 2012-03-24 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I happen to think that Dean tends to forget--or at least sideline--Sam a lot more since S4 anyway. I think he has a lot of buried resentment and such, which comes out in his treatment of Sam. The S6 finale (Pt. I) was one of the biggest moments of "Dean treating Sam like shit" that I can recall. He doesn't think twice about taking his shit out on Sam nor does he seem to think twice about blaming Sam for everything that goes wrong; be it on a case or with Sam himself. It makes perfect sense (to me) that Sam hides so much from Dean and then of course, Dean blows up about that, too. Seriously, Sam cannot win with him when it comes to that stuff.

It also wouldn't surprise me if Dean did get a little... sidetracked... when he found Castiel, too. However, all of that said, I do still think that Dean loves his brother. Though I honestly don't think he loves him as much as he once did and instead views Sam (at least on one hand) with a leery, wary edge because I think Dean really does see Sam as a "freak" and a "monster". Well, we all know Dean's feelings about those.

Fiction or not (and I do know it is, unlike some of the more psycho fans out there) them bringing Castiel back to take Lucifer into himself, etc. thing is totally, completely illogical. Particularly if they did play it along the lines of suggesting that it was really Lucifer and not Sam's mental illness. Like I said, Lucifer would/could rip him apart from the inside out and I can't see any reason why he wouldn't start tearing away at Castiel. While I like Castiel a lot (since S5 anyway) there is no way that I can believe he has the power to hold Satan within himself without getting really fucked up and eventually devoured/destroyed by him. That's not just bias talking there, that's dogmatic logic (if that is at all possible).

So, yeah, it sounds like it was a great episode and one that I'd enjoy immensely, but that ending also sounds like it was made of complete fail. Also--and this is probably just me--I liked Crazy Sam almost as much as I lusted after liked Soulless Sam. *sigh* Damn you, Show, you keep taking away all of my favorite shiny toys. Woe.

Oh, lookie there, I just rambled at you. Oops. *g*
Edited 2012-03-24 23:25 (UTC)