SPN 7.17

[azziria]

Unshaven, sleep-deprived, Lucifer-tortured Sam sliding off the edge of sanity and yet still driven to help someone else in trouble. Just... all the feelings. Seriously.

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[portraitofafool.livejournal.com]

I missed it... AGAIN. *sob* Man, it sounds like things are getting really good, too. In a break-your-heart way.

I am almost afraid to ask, but I feel I have to do it anyway: How (not) well is Dean handling all of this?

[azziria.livejournal.com]

You need to see this one - Jared was *amazing* as broken!Sam, and Mark Pellegrino was pretty damn good - and pretty damn creepy - as Lucifer. Kudos to both actors.

Dean... we had Dean trying to help his brother, which was good... but we also had Dean finding Cas (a Cas who didn't know that he was an angel or who Dean was) and... I don't know. It wasn't really a Dean episode (or maybe I was just so blown away by Sam, you know I'm a tad biased...) and I didn't really feel it one way or the other with regard to Dean this episode. And then we had Cas save Sam at the end by taking Lucifer from him and into himself... far too pat a solution, and one that raises questions about how that can happen if Lucifer is a hallucination of Sam's. Is it sloppy writing (to get them out of the corner they'd painted themselves into with Sam), or is a bit of Lucifer managing to escape the cage and infiltrate Sam's head?

[portraitofafool.livejournal.com]

I love Mark so hard (as you well know) so I am really gnashing my teeth to see these last two episodes. To the point I am considering begging my flist for help as in "please burn them and mail them to me" otherwise I will not get to see them. *sob* My favorite show and I never get to watch it (almost never anyway). Someone tell me how that is anything at all like "fair". Getting OT though, wow.

At least Dean isn't being a dick to Sam about this stuff, which I honestly half expected him to be. Dean has a remarkably BAD track record when it comes to Sam's... unique... troubles. Ass. ::ahem::

That does sound too pat/easy of a solution for them to have done and it makes me wonder if it's really over. I am honestly hoping they didn't drop the ball THAT hard on this matter after so much amazing awesomeness. It would be a real shame if they just handwaved it away like that, but Show has a shitty history of doing such things (damnit). I do kind of wonder about Lucifer though--is he escaping somewhat (like maybe Sam is a doorway for him to at least stick his head through) or is he a hallucination? Either way, it doesn't work for Castiel to take Lucifer--be he real or hallucinatory--into himself because being a minor angel as he is; Lucifer would rip him apart from the inside out. So, if you look at it from that angle, he won't ("realistically" speaking) be able to hold Lucifer because sorry, the angel of Thursday with a little extra oomph still cannot contain the Lucifer. It makes for thinky thoughts anyway, yes indeed.

Also... it makes for some thinky Sam/Castiel thoughts, but no, no, not doing that. lol

[azziria.livejournal.com]

Fandom seems to be very divided about this episode, from what I'm reading. A lot of Sam fans feel that the minute Cas turned up Dean somehow forgot about Sam, but at the end of the day Dean didn't hesitate about Cas getting his bad memories back if it meant saving Sam. I guess if you love Sam and don't care for Cas then you're going to see this episode through a different filter from those who 'ship Cas and Dean.

I have issues with how they've so conveniently 'solved' Sam's Lucifer problem, and with them bringing Cas back just to do it, but my issues were so eclipsed by how Jared and Mark played this that I'm taking the episode as a win.

[portraitofafool.livejournal.com]

I happen to think that Dean tends to forget--or at least sideline--Sam a lot more since S4 anyway. I think he has a lot of buried resentment and such, which comes out in his treatment of Sam. The S6 finale (Pt. I) was one of the biggest moments of "Dean treating Sam like shit" that I can recall. He doesn't think twice about taking his shit out on Sam nor does he seem to think twice about blaming Sam for everything that goes wrong; be it on a case or with Sam himself. It makes perfect sense (to me) that Sam hides so much from Dean and then of course, Dean blows up about that, too. Seriously, Sam cannot win with him when it comes to that stuff.

It also wouldn't surprise me if Dean did get a little... sidetracked... when he found Castiel, too. However, all of that said, I do still think that Dean loves his brother. Though I honestly don't think he loves him as much as he once did and instead views Sam (at least on one hand) with a leery, wary edge because I think Dean really does see Sam as a "freak" and a "monster". Well, we all know Dean's feelings about those.

Fiction or not (and I do know it is, unlike some of the more psycho fans out there) them bringing Castiel back to take Lucifer into himself, etc. thing is totally, completely illogical. Particularly if they did play it along the lines of suggesting that it was really Lucifer and not Sam's mental illness. Like I said, Lucifer would/could rip him apart from the inside out and I can't see any reason why he wouldn't start tearing away at Castiel. While I like Castiel a lot (since S5 anyway) there is no way that I can believe he has the power to hold Satan within himself without getting really fucked up and eventually devoured/destroyed by him. That's not just bias talking there, that's dogmatic logic (if that is at all possible).

So, yeah, it sounds like it was a great episode and one that I'd enjoy immensely, but that ending also sounds like it was made of complete fail. Also--and this is probably just me--I liked Crazy Sam almost as much as I lusted after liked Soulless Sam. *sigh* Damn you, Show, you keep taking away all of my favorite shiny toys. Woe.

Oh, lookie there, I just rambled at you. Oops. *g*